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Anonymous Coward — Mon, 12/11/06 7:46pm
I am sorry But Sid yost is not an animal abuser I know My name is Jenny Hamlett I work with sid at our ranch cody , sable, and angel are the best behaved chimps ever because they trust us like we do them we gave them the experance of a life time . All you people need to leave Sid alone he loved them chimps like his own kids and you hurt his heart including the trainners. I hope you are happy now the chimps will be put with others who will kill them are even worse . They will eat once a day and its all cause you pleople.
Bee Boy — Mon, 12/11/06 9:18pm
And the list of onebee comments to be printed on t-shirts grows by one!
"The Truth" — Mon, 12/11/06 11:09pm
I have just read your article on the Cody, Sable and Angel supposedly being saved from horrible conditions. I have personally helped raise and train all three of these chimps for the past seven years and am completely appalled at the lies being written about this situation. These chimps have never been mistreated in any way, they have been trained through positive reinforcement and great relationships that have been built on trust and love. The animal rights groups simple want all apes out of Hollywood and will do anything to accomplish this. They have made up false charges and have forced us to defend ourselves in court which has become more than we can afford, therefore they eventually won. Understand that Sid Yost was never convicted of any of these false charges, and was forced to give up his children(chimps). The chimps were completely traumatized by the move and being forced to leave their trainers who they are bonded very closely with. The very idea that a group with endless money can make up false charges, take you to court, and because you don't have a ton of money to defend yourself, then take away your children (chimps), is insane! I hope people will be as outraged as I am and do something about the real problem, the ALDF!
Tobin
"Barry" — Fri, 12/15/06 4:35pm
I have been to Sid's ranch and it was an amazing experience. All I saw was love between animal and trainer and and a huge amount of trust. I spent a lot of time there and never was there a raised voice or a threatening gesture made to any animal. I offer my sympathy and support to Sid at this very tough time.
"karen" — Sat, 12/16/06 5:14am
I've been around Cody & Sid on several occassions & witness the bond similar to that of parent & child. I feel extremely sorrowful for Sid as well as the Chimps. It as if he has lost his children. I pray that this organization redeems there selfs because what they sow they will surely reap. As long as the earth remains there will be seed time & harvest time.that
"Karen" — Sat, 12/16/06 5:17am
I want to clarify in the prior comment posted, I was referring to the organization that made the FALSE accusations against Sid when I stated the law of reaping & sowing!
Bee Boy — Sat, 12/16/06 9:07am
Okay, good. Because for a minute there it wasn't making sense.
Anonymous Coward — Fri, 12/22/06 4:13pm
I have seen these chimps kicked and beaten not only by Sid, but his other trainers Tobin, John, Claire and Shelly.(others also who were volunteers) I also worked for Sid at the bony pony ranch in Malibu. During his time there, he was arrested and handcuffed. After this he and his animals were asked to leave the ranch. He convicted of crimes and was placed under house arrest when I was there and issued an leg monitor so he couldnt leave. Sid is a big bully and I am glad he lost the chimps. I wish someone would come and take his other exotic animals as I am certain they are also in danger of abuse. Dont believe me? just google his name and check out his past.
Anonymous Coward — Wed, 12/27/06 1:24am
I spent a few visits at the ranch in San Bernardino and would never have gone back if I thought for a second that the chimps were being abused. I saw Cody get shocked by the electric fence when he tried to climb over, and he came running and crying to sid, and jumped into his arms to be consoled. I hardly think that an animal would do that if afraid of their owner. These chimps were fed all fresh food and when at public events, sid would not force them to do anything–if anything, he let them call the shots and would take them out of situations if he thought they were getting agitated. What I encountered were friendly and happy chimps who loved their "parents".
"annonymous coward" — Thu, 2/8/07 8:22pm
Why is no one mentioning Apollo?
He was supposed to have been protected by the USDA.
Anonymous Coward — Wed, 2/21/07 11:50pm
Apollo the chimpanzee was bitten by a rattlesnake and died. If the USDA had insisted on certain measures as they were aware of all the rattlesnakes around the chimpanzees' enclosure, Apollo would still be alive.
"observer2" — Tue, 2/27/07 12:00am
are you for real? I'm sure they loved their "parents" which were shot and killed no doubt. they are wild animals and deserve to live the life they were meant to live. It is people like sid who perpetuate this ignorance that having chimps or wild animals as pets is okay. of course they are adorable, fascinating, animals. Keep the fantasy in your head you dont need to own or infringe on wild animals rights. they are the ones who end up suffering in the end. angel bit a nine year old girls hand! she is happy now with other chimps. {the best case would be if she never had to leave the wild}
Anonymous Coward — Thu, 3/22/07 12:53pm
Sid is not an animal abuser, but he is a lier and a thief. Heuses people and was actually paid to retire the chimps to the facilities, and the people who actually sponsored them for $35,000 didn't get anything or even the chance to say goodbye to them.
Anonymous Coward — Thu, 3/22/07 12:56pm
Cody and Sable were actually rescued from the Colston Foundation and saved from research. Sid was in charge of the chimps care, which he did well and never abused them. He just lied to sponsors of them and he received money for the chimps that he didn't own.
"anon" — Tue, 3/27/07 6:38pm
I want to hear more about Apollo being bitten by the rattlesnake. Did Sid try to get help immediately?
"anon" — Tue, 3/27/07 6:47pm
why did the USDA allow chimpanzees to live surrounded by rattlesnakes?
Bee Boy — Sat, 3/31/07 11:30pm
I love this thread so much! "why did the USDA allow chimpanzees to live surrounded by rattlesnakes?" has got to rival "more information on licorice can be found on the Internet" for sheer dazzling t-shirt-worthiness.
"animal lover" — Wed, 4/4/07 4:54pm
Sid did everything he could for pee-guy (apollo) he ran around everywhere did all he can
"jen" — Wed, 4/4/07 4:56pm
back off sid and worrie about yourself . Theres more important thing in life to worrie about then animals who has homes and feed ,cleand worrie about the childern starving around the world and have no homes thats something you should worrie about.
"anon" — Fri, 4/13/07 1:28pm
The USDA should have recommended safeguards against the rattlesnakes, made sure that there was an emergency kit available, could have recommended hardware cloth around the fence to keep out the rattlesnakes as they could see for themselves all the rattlesnake holes in close proximity to the chimps enclosures.
"Truth" — Mon, 4/16/07 5:20pm
FYI Snakes are a problem in certain areas of the country - not even the best of zoos can protect their animals 100% I found this online - it's dated Aug 06 I believe
Zoo chimp killed by bite from rattler A chimpanzee died last week at the Los Angeles Zoo after being bitten by a rattlesnake, zoo officials said Monday.
The chimp died Wednesday after it was bitten by a rattler that fell into the Mahali Mountain chimpanzee exhibit, zoo spokesman Jason Jacobs said.
The snake bit the chimp from a bush inside its habitat, Jacobs said, adding that antivenin failed to save the primate. A necropsy is being performed on the animal.
"Truth" — Mon, 4/16/07 5:34pm
Anonymous wrote: I also worked for Sid at the bony pony ranch in Malibu... After this he and his animals were asked to leave the ranch. However, on Bony Pony Ranch's website with lots of photos of happy chimps it says "Cody is a charming young chimp who loves everyone. ...from his antics he's developed the reputation of being quite a goofy guy!"
I wasn't there so can't say whether Sid was asked to leave - but the website still features photos & kind words about all the chimps. Somethind doesn't add up here.
http://www.bonyponyranch.com/ranchanimbioschimps.html
"Observer3" — Mon, 4/16/07 5:47pm
FYI to Observer 2
I also believe in keeping animals in the wild & protecting their habitat. Unfortunately, we are destroying habitat everywhere & many animals face extinction.
The chimps that are used in entertainment & in zoos as well were bred in captivity & can NOT be released in the wild for their own protection. Not sure if you've seen the Jane Goodall film where chimps kill each other in "war."
Also, many of the chimps in entertainment, including Sid's, were actually rescued from labs. Others were abandoned by their mothers inzoos& would have died had it not been for human care. Although they will never live a "normal" life in Africa, they were well-loved & taken care of by their trainers.
"Anon" — Fri, 4/20/07 1:05pm
Yes, I do believe that Sid tried his best to save Apollo. The problem as I see it is that the USDA did not give him enough guidance on how best to protect the chimpanzees from the rattlesnakes which surrounded their enclosure or to make sure that he an emergency plan in place in case of a rattlesnake bite.
Yes, it is true that a chimpanzee at the Los Angeles zoo also died from a rattlesnake bite. The Zoo came under a lot of criticism as they have also had other animals die from rattlesnake bites. It seems that they are also not taking the necessary precautions to protect their animals from a known danger.
"Diggity" — Sun, 5/6/07 11:50am
My name is Diggity, a Siberian Lynx and I am one of Sid Yost's past abused victims. I can only speak from experience along with my family, Rocky(chimp),Samson and Delilah,(Kodiak bears), Midnight and Cody(black bears)among others who have either passed on or moved to other homes. My memories of Sid's abuse are vivid and will be with me as long as I live. He protrays to the public he is all about "affection" but behind closed doors, he uses mental and physical abuse to get what he wants. All my friends are happy now and are with people who really love us. Sid does not deserve the privledge of owning any animal, exotic or otherwise. Leopards don't change their spots.
Brandon — Mon, 5/7/07 5:40pm
Diggity - where do you stand on the debate over whether you are a separate species, or merely a subspecies of the Eurasian Lynx? I mean, come on, the Iberian Lynx rates species status but not you?? Don't get me started on the Iberian Lynx...
Bee Boy — Mon, 5/7/07 6:18pm
Brandon - you forgot to say which type of animal you are. Now that this thread has converted to furry fandom, we each have to adopt an animal persona for our chat. Diggity is a Siberian Lynx, with a very elaborate backstory.
I'm going to be a Triceratops named "Robin Colcord." And Robin's position on the Sid Yost debate is: still doesn't give a shit.
"K J" — Tue, 5/15/07 8:38am
SID RULES!!!!!!!!!
"ronnie sab" — Wed, 5/16/07 4:42pm
if i had this guy yost for a minuet, he would never hurt another chimp. not only is he a coward, and i read all i could about this tryant, he is a thief, and a liar. he should be banned from show business.
Brandon — Wed, 5/16/07 7:46pm
Who knew stately, triple-meter, 17th century pattern dancing could be so intimidating?
(Seriously though, is this the single most fun thread in onebee history or what?)
"snowman" — Fri, 5/18/07 8:32am
I've delt with Sid many times. I don't believe most of these charges. Most of you people need to get a life and quit trash talking someone you dont even know. I'm sure we could find fault in each and every one of you. I dont believe in kicking someone while their down. One day it might be one of you punks!
"someone who knows" — Mon, 5/28/07 3:01pm
GET REAL. even if you believe half of what you read or hear about Sid, there's some truth somewhere. The fact is, Sid Yost endorses "affection training" and somewhat practices it but not 100%. Abuse in the form of using the animal as a punching bag or shock treatments to make it submissive is a common form of Sid's "affection training". I have worked with Sid and have first hand knowledge working with chimps, lions, leopards, tigers, bears, and small cats. He has an outgoing personality and you can't help but like him but 90% of what is on this site I know to be true. As for the snake bitten chimps, I can only wonder why Sid didn't use more prevention in securing the chimps from snakes. He has plenty of knowledge and doesn't need the USDA to give him ideas. Preventative measures should have been taught in "Affection Training 101). As a owner of exotics, I am always thinking ahead. These animals depend on us to make their environment safe and the USDA enforces as does the state regulations and laws. But let's use some common sense here. I'm sure he was devastated by the death of the chimps, but Sid's no dummy. He has plenty of knowledge and it could have been prevented. Be careful in any dealings with Sid. "A leopards spots don't change" He's probably one of the best "CON ARTIST" I have witnessed.
"animal guy" — Tue, 6/5/07 10:10pm
Quote from "someone who knows":
"Be careful "in any dealings with Sid. "A leopards spots don't change" He's probably one of the best "CON ARTIST" I have witnessed."
Not a more true statement could apply here. Sid took "donation" money from me for a bear enclosure to be built in Malibus Bony Pony Ranch. Nothing was ever built, the bear got taken by California Fish and Game, and my $8,000, well, it disappeared. As a matter of fact,so did Sid. I hear he is hiding under the name "Rick Kelly" to avoid his shady past.
"Snowman" — Thu, 6/7/07 9:31am
If Sid is such a crook how the heck does he stay in the biz. I don't get it! If these charges are true, this says alot about the animal buisness. I think instead of venting your anger toward Sid you guys should pour your energy into the real problem.
Brandon — Thu, 6/7/07 4:26pm
Do you mean super-smart, radioactive talking chimps from space that blend in and live discreetly among us, waiting for their day of reckoning? If so, I wholeheartedly agree, sir!
Bee Boy — Thu, 6/7/07 5:29pm
You mean they have those? If so, thank God for the rattlesnakes. The shamefully lax USDA really did us a favor!
"Snowman" — Wed, 6/13/07 8:12am
I think Brandon must be one of those super-stupid radioactive talking chimps from space that blend in and live among us.
Brandon — Wed, 6/13/07 12:43pm
I've been zinged in the Sid Yost comments section - I finally made it to the big time, baby!
"anon" — Wed, 6/13/07 1:18pm
The USDA were doing inspections supposedly on a regular basis because of complaints. Perhaps they were too focused on the complaints and turned a blind eye to more serious threats to the Chimpanzees.
"anon" — Wed, 6/13/07 1:30pm
The Chimp Collaboratory was involved with a law suit against Sid. However their focus was chimpanzees being used in the entertainment field rather than the broader context of chimpanzees being protected from all threats. Perhaps this is one reason the USDA did not concern themselves about enforcing protection against the rattlesnakes as the emphasis was on protecting the chimpanzees from abuse, but neglect is also abuse.
"Mike" — Wed, 6/13/07 5:07pm
B, you were always big time, it was the internet that was too small.
"anon" — Fri, 6/15/07 11:05am
Does "someone who knows" or anyone else know whether there was an insurance policy on Apollo (the chimpanzee who died from the rattlesnake bite). Thanks.
"I agree" — Sun, 6/24/07 10:48am
Having worked with him, I agree... A liar, animal abuser, criminal, etc., etc. The biggist con artist I have ever met. I personally saw him abuse animals from chimps to bears to big cats. He has no real knowlege of "affection training" which is why his animals all lash out when given the opportunity and eventually suffer years of mental agony. The lucky animals that Sid comes in contact with are bitten by rattle snakes! Nobody should give this man money or attention. He is true scum and will always be. I feel sorry for his family (whom he has deserted several times) and any animals that are unlucky enough to cross his path.
"anon" — Sun, 6/24/07 8:53pm
So does anyone think that maybe Sid had Apollo bitten by a rattlesnake to collect insurance money or am I being too paranoid. I feel guilty to ask such a question, but I want to remove all doubt. Thanks.
"A GOOD FRIEND" — Mon, 9/10/07 6:15pm
FUCK PETA AND JANE GOODALL.......SID IS THE MOST CARING PERSON IN THE WHOLE WORLD. HE IS VERY LOVING AND NICE TO HIS ANIMALS AND ITS AMAZING TO SEE HIM WORK WITH THE ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY LOVE HIM SO MUCH AND HE LOVES THEM. PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP SHIT ARE JUST JEALOUS OF HIS TALENTS AND ARE STUPID AND THEY COULD ALL DIE BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID. I KNOW FIRST HAND SID DIDNT BEAT HIS CHIMPS. HE WAS SO SAD FOR WEEKS AND IS STILL SAD NOW BECAUSE THE IDIOTS TOOK THEM AWAY.
Bee Boy — Mon, 9/10/07 11:23pm
I swear, this thread simply refuses to stop creating great T-shirt slogans.
Thanks for the capitalization. It got my attention. I just hope the USA Patriot Act is in all caps, because God damn if that doesn't send a message!
"Someone From Sid's Past" — Fri, 12/28/07 1:56am
I Know Sid in Detail. I Know Everything about Sid. I Know About Sid's Problems With Card Services, The IRS, The Federal Trustee's Office and even with Larry Crivelli.
I know about Adair in the UK. I know about Jack Snow, I know about everything Lifestyles, I even know about who killed Tommy Schafer.
I know a lot of things about Sid Yost.
"Someone From Sid's Past" — Fri, 12/28/07 2:03am
P.S.
If You Talk to Sid, ask him if he remembers Catch The Wave...and "The Chinaman", I know that Tommy Payne would.
Also, ask Sid about Joey Bilello and The Harmony Fund. He will remember.
Anonymous Coward — Fri, 12/28/07 2:05am
PPS
Or R.J.
Hey Sid, There is no statute of limitations under RICO.
See ya at Club Fed!
"Someone From Sid's Past" — Fri, 12/28/07 2:17am
Sincerely,
Logger.
Bee Boy — Fri, 12/28/07 9:33am
This already awesome thread just became an Elmore Leonard novel.
Best. Christmas. Ever.
"animal guy" — Sat, 1/26/08 1:56pm
Sounds like "Someone from Sids past" needs to contact the animal defense league people. They have been trying to bust him for years. All they need is info to tie all his scams together and they could make a case. Not only have animals been abused by him for years, but Lots of people have been robbed by Sid as well. Ponzie scams, Time share scams, (I heard that the time share one was in the millions) Sid is just a bad egg period. When Karma finally catches up with him he will have a steep price to pay.
"Someone From Sid's Past" — Fri, 2/22/08 2:29am
Dear Animal Guy,
Trust Me. The Animal Defense League is the least of Sid's concerns.
I know about the .38 he owned years ago that had a broken thumb drop.
As I said, I know Sid!
"Robin" — Wed, 2/27/08 3:28pm
What a bunch of crap, you low-life, hate mongering speculators. I've known Sid as a remote acquaintance for over a decade. I've never done business deals or given him money so I know nothing of "shady business deals" or that sort of thing, and I'm not here to speculate or judge what I don't know.... (take a hint)
What I do know is that Sid Yost loves and respects his animal friends and treats them with far more humanity than you snakes would offer him. Abused animals cower in the presence of their tormentors - animals that are loved, cared for and well trained, act and will respond as Sids did in his presence - joyously and playfully.
If you were there and if you saw the unconditional love and respect that Sids animals showed him, you would simply know that all the other posts are lies from people who don't care who they hurt to fulfill their own agenda.
Which ones of you mean liars has ever taken the time and effort to train any animal beyond a golden retriever? Did you ever have to break or ride horse, or do you nimrods think that to ride a horse is abuse also?
With primates, even as intelligent as they are, it take a little more then a nice "please and thank you" to train them to be safely interactive with humans. They are hierarchal animals and to train them, it take a stern, loving and very consistent hand. And other than the malicious lying "undercover" person, everyone that has ever worked directly with Sid knows and trusts his skills with animals.
If anybody wants to know the truth about Sid and how he treats his animal friends, go back to the top and read what Jenny, Tobin, Barry and Karen have to say - they were the closest the longest and their only agenda is their love for the animals.
And about the bruises - Ha! A chimp is more than twice as dense as a human - you could use a chimp as a "punching bag" all day and never raise a bruise but your hand would be mangled after the first hit - it would be like hitting a furry brick wall.
What surprises me, though, is that still, all of the comments I read have missed a truly important point - this process has destroyed a man and his family - Sid, Angel, Cody, et al, have been devastated and heart broken - imagine if a lying group of self righteous bastards took your bright, happy, interactive family and dumped them in with a huge lot of under stimulated, angry broken children without ever having hope of being together again?
To all the mean spirited lying bastards who would purposely defame Sid - you suck, you suuuuck, you suck!
Brandon — Wed, 2/27/08 5:15pm
I once tried to train Gary Busey, but it just didn't take. And yes, I did have to ride him from time to time, though neither of us considered it abuse.
I smell another Rocky sequel – Hollywood riches, here I come!
"BrianM" — Sun, 3/2/08 3:15am
What is wrong with you Sid Bashing people? Sid has been wrongfully characterized by so many people because of his ownership and love for chimpanzies.
The only truth I have seen from this message board is relation to MONEY. But, what is in your wallet! Think about that when you do your taxes this year!
Yes, chimps should be in the wild but they were taken prior to Sid for scientific studies. He took them from the Colson Foundation and gave them a life that they never had before. I was around these chimps for over 5 years and they were family. We loved them while they were in our lives and will continue to love them in our hearts. As a matter a fact, call the locations where these chimps are living and ask the present handlers how the chimps reacted when the trainers (Sid, Tobin, Shelly) showed up for a surprise visit. The chimps welcomed them to their new home and it was a moment that I know the current owners will never forget. We loved them like they are our own children. They were family that were taken away from us and they will always remember us as we will remember them. I would place any wager know matter how big that there would be no fear but welcomed arms and loud chimps of joy when they saw us for another time.
Stop the Sid Bashing. He is after all just another animal lover like anyone else.
Joe Mulder — Mon, 3/3/08 3:34pm
That's not another ROCKY sequel, you idiot... that's just what chimpanzees smell like!
I miss the "Love Monkey" people.
Anonymous Coward — Thu, 4/3/08 12:13am
YOU should spell check, before posting the blogs. Sid was in Laguna Beach this last Monday 4-2-08 would like to catch up w/him as I have not seen him since Lion Country Safari in the 80's. I worked w/him and Robin,when I was nursery staff/rangers @ LCS . Still have pictures of the Badger and the skunk from Colorado...Small world
"Patricia" — Wed, 7/9/08 6:47pm
I just heard about the trouble that Sid is in. He treats them like his children and would never hurt them. Sid, if you happen to read this, please give me a call.
"Patti" — Wed, 7/9/08 6:57pm
Does anyone have any information on Angel? is she okay? Is she still with Sid?
"Anonymous" — Fri, 8/22/08 11:44am
Angel is now at a wonderful sanctuary in Florida.
Anonymous Coward — Tue, 9/2/08 11:30pm
agreed – I have been there many times and hired him for events – all the animals are loved beyond belief. Whomever wrote these lies should be ashamed.
"70's" — Mon, 9/29/08 4:17pm
Is this the same Sid Yost that had Payson Exotic Animals in Payson, Arizon
"jenny" — Wed, 10/15/08 3:46pm
Everyone is still talking about sid yost? they need to move on we will always have the chimps in our heart. Things happen and then you move on. Sid is a great person no matter what anyone wants to say. so lets move on and give him some slack.